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McTeer: The Enemy Inflation Is Knocking on Our Door
by Dina Temple-Raston
USA TODAY
May 10, 2000
| In the fourth of a
series of interviews with Federal Reserve officials,
Dallas Federal Reserve Bank President Robert
McTeer spoke this week with USA TODAY economics
reporter Dina Temple-Raston about the downside
of rising interest rates and the danger of
inflation. Twice last year, McTeer was the
lone vote on the Federal Open Market Committee
against raising interest rates. This year,
he is not a voting member. |
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Consumer price index troubling
Q: Some people don't understand why the Fed wants
to slow the economy and maybe whittle down the number of
jobs. What can you say to them?
A: Personally, I don't want to slow the economy down, and
I don't want unemployment to be any higher than it has to
be. On the other hand, I agree with everybody else (at the
Fed). I don't want inflation to flare up because low inflation
is the healthiest environment.
I think the best analogy is a race car driver. Race cars
have brakes. Now why would a race car have brakes? Obviously,
it is not to slow down the average speed, it is to help you
take the curves and the corners so your average speed can
be higher. My colleagues at the Fed and I want the expansion
to remain sustainable, we don't want to blow the lid off
and slip into recession.
Q: How do we know the enemy, inflation, has arrived?
A: In March, the core inflation rate (in the consumer price
index) was up 0.4%. Maybe that will be temporary. But I would
put it this way: The enemy is knocking on our door.
Q: What is the most disturbing economic number you've
seen?
A: The worst numbers I have seen are the March (consumer
price index) numbers. The trade deficit and the current account
deficit are very, very large, and they pose a potential problem,
but I don't see them as a problem yet. Because of the strength
of the U.S. economy, we're importing more than we're exporting.
But the attractiveness of the U.S. as an investment location
is making foreigners more than willing to put in the necessary
money to finance that trade deficit.
Q: Is the run-up in financial markets frightening
to central bankers?
A: When the Nasdaq went up 87% in 1999, I wouldn't call
it scary, it was amazing. I don't want to leave the impression
that I know what (the stock markets' level) ought to be because
I don't, though it did look like an awfully unsustainable
thing to have happen. Clearly, a lot of something, I guess
it was air, has gone out of it.
I do believe we're in a new paradigm. We're in a new economy,
and we shouldn't expect all the old stock valuation rules
apply to the new economy. But that doesn't mean the sky's
the limit, either. The markets are a lot closer to earth
than they were.
Q: Do rising wages necessarily mean inflation?
A: Wages are key in the economy. When wages start leading
to costs rising more rapidly, if you have tight labor markets
and very little excess capacity in the economy, it is very
likely to be inflationary. On the other hand, if productivity
is keeping up, then wages can rise pretty fast without it
leading to higher unit labor costs.
Q: Did the fact that productivity rose a less-than-expected
2.4% last quarter worry you in that respect then?
A: Well, everyone focused on the 2.4% number. Nobody said
anything about adding five-tenths to the fourth quarter.
You know the fourth quarter they were saying (productivity
rose at) a 6.4% (annualized rate). Then it was revised as
6.9%. If you look at a graph of quarterly productivity numbers,
it is not smooth. There are usually a couple of big ones
followed by a little one.
Remember last year, the second-quarter (productivity) number
was kind of weak, and people were saying maybe (this productivity
boom) is over with. Then we had two fantastic quarters in
the second half.
It wasn't but a few months that I thought I was being daring
when I said productivity could go as fast as 3%, and when
I was saying it, thinking I was being daring, the economy
was already doing it. In many ways, productivity growth is
even better than those numbers indicate. Productivity is
great, the numbers are great and the reality is probably
even better than the numbers.
Q: How does the Dallas Fed's role differ from that
of the other 11 regional Fed banks?
A: In terms of keeping up with the economy here at the Dallas
Fed, we're probably a little more interested in the oil business
than some of the others. We've kept up a little bit more
with Mexico and Latin America more than the others. Those
are two things based on geography. We're a little more active
in economic education than some of them.
Dallas Fed
President Relies on Folksy Wisdom
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
President Robert McTeer fancies himself a modern day Claude
Frédéric Bastiat,
the 19th century French pamphleteer who, among other things,
tried to explain economics to the masses.
"He's my hero," said McTeer, 57, in an interview. "He
wasn't on the leading edge of economics, but he used satire
to explain the fundamentals of the economy. I'm not a brilliant
economist, I don't do mathematical models, but I'd like to
follow in his footsteps."
Bastiat, like McTeer, was a bit of a maverick. A delegate
to the French Assembly, he wrote satires about government
regulation, including one that called on the French parliament
to pass a law requiring citizens to close their curtains
because sunlight had become unfair competition for candlestick
makers.
"It sounds ridiculous, but it is exactly what they
argue when they argue for protectionism," says McTeer,
who has been an advocate for a more laissez-faire monetary
policy.
He was the only member of the Federal Open Market Committee
to vote against raising interest rates last summer, arguing
the economy's productivity gains would offset the inflationary
impulses tight labor markets might spark. Needless to say,
McTeer, like Bastiat, was outvoted. The Fed has raised the
overnight lending rate in five quarter-point increments since
June in a bid to prevent the U.S. economy from overheating.
Though McTeer says he hasn't felt pressure to vote with
his Fed colleagues, privately some members grumble that his
dissension runs counter to the central bank's corporate culture,
making the FOMC process seem more acrimonious than it is.
What's more, McTeer's folksy way of making a point goes
against the staid grain of the institution. In many ways,
McTeer is speaking from a childhood that reads like a Faulkner
novel: He picked cotton, worked at his father's truck stop
and says his only memory of his boyhood home in Ranger, Ga.,
was returning from school one day and discovering it was
missing.
"I had forgotten that it was to be moved that day about
a quarter-mile up the road," he says. "I think
of that house and the way it grew over time as a metaphor
for income growth."
From those humble beginnings, McTeer went to the University
of Georgia and received a Ph.D. in economics before joining
the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Va., in 1968 as an
economist. He took the top spot at the Dallas Fed in 1991.
He is married and has two grown sons.
Copyright 2000, USA TODAY. Reprinted
with permission.
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